Response To Gamers: Where the F@!* is Uncharted 2!?

Don’t worry. There are and always will be trolls on the internet that can’t express what they want to without adding words like fuck shit or moron. It’s in their nature and your article is great. Never back your opinions down just because you are afraid of some teenager troll who is going to insult you because you stated something that you don’t like with reasons.

Fair enough you think Uncharted 2 is overrated, but citing Godhand and Portal as examples of originality in gaming completely undermines your argument about Uncharted 2. The fact is, all games are now no more than refinements of pre-existing ideas, so this article could apply to pretty much anything.

In the words of the internet: epic fail.

Well said Chad

Brilliant article, I give it 5 out of 5.

[shadowjak] = write of this article <– do you even know anything about gaming.

you top 10 is full of crap (with some few exception) and right off the bat I can tell you haven't played the best games this generation. Some games that are better than most of the games you listed:

-Demon's Souls
-Gow of War 3
-Uncharted 2
-Dead Space
-Infamous
-LittleBigPlanet
-Red Dead Redemption

how the fuck do you even have a job as a gaming journalist???

I seriously don’t understand why you’re all so upset with this. It’s his own personal opinion on whether or not he enjoyed Uncharted 2 and as you can see from his list he has a mixed bag with a ps3 exclusive at the top. I loved Uncharted 2 to death, but do I expect everybody else to share my opinion? Of course not.

All of this is seriously showing the ps3-fanboys and making all other Uncharted fans look bad. If you’re all so upset about this I’ll consider putting it at the top of my top 10 when I do one.

I respectfully disagree. I find the cover system needs some work, but it is great nonetheless. I don’t know how you manage to climb the wrong things. I seem to know where to go :S I do find the enemies to be bullet sponges, but you have to consider that they are wearing gigantic Kevlar body suits, and a lot of it. There is creativity in this game, the level design is creative, including the puzzles. I agree with your comments with the online, but disagree with your comment that PS3 online games have no creativity, littlebigplanet 1 & 2, modnation racers, and most importantly demons souls. I also don’t understand why you mean when you say it tries too hard to be a money making franchise, it’s simply trying to be a fun game, it succeeds. Halo tries to hard to be a money making franchise with all the useless spinoffs. Ignore that comment if your a fan boy. Thanks for hearing me. Do note I agree with some things in this article.

Uncharted 2 has won more awards than any other game this generation, it set the bar in graphics and it has won more GOTY awards than any other game in GAMING HISTORY – not to mention all the perfect scores it’s got.

the awards were pretty unanimous for Uncharted 2 in the following 3 department:
-Graphics
-Story
-Gameplay

but Diego is right, it’s his own personal top 10 games and his opinion are based on what he likes…But Uncharted 2 did what in 2008 and what Super Mario Galaxy did in May 2010.

Article writer is a dumbass. You think you can argue against fanboys and anons of the internet? You’re dumb as shit. Maybe that’s why you were so proud of yourself for using the word ‘plethora’. Middle school word.

Honestly, this is how I feel about Uncharted 2. Can’t you guys respect an OPINION? I mean, come on! So you (probably) wet your pants at the very mention of Uncharted 2. That doesn’t mean everyone does. If you guys took a step back and actually looked at what you’re saying you’ll realize that you sound like butt hurt fanboys. I don’t have a PS3 (I want one, but the only issue is money) and I haven’t played a whole lot of Uncharted 2, but this article pretty much sums up how I feel. And all y’alls reactions pretty much involve the words “f***” and “you.” Can’t you guys come up with an intelligent response to the article instead of calling shadowjak a dumbass or dumb as s***? I’ve met people who don’t like the Zelda series (one of my favorites), but that’s ok. It’s their opinions. I’m not a fan of realistic racing games, but you don’t see me blindly insulting Gran Turismo 5. Shadowjak layed out why he doesn’t like Uncharted 2, and explained his points. This is a well written article, and doesn’t deserve this kind of berating from fanboys.

Thank you for the support!

If you remember reading my top ten thoroughly, I did give honors to LBP and Infamous. I haven’t had the chance to play RDR yet, money is tight atm though I plan to before the end of the year and, as I said in my article, I know that by the end of 2010 by entire list will need editing. As for God of War 3, I prefer Bayonetta so I gave the honor mention to that. NOT THAT GOD OF WAR 3 IS BAD! I enjoyed it very much and thought it was intense and very thrilling, especially fighting Kronos, but I prefer creativity in my games. The other games though just had something more that clicked with me. If you read my reasonings instead of looking at the pictures like a kindergarten student learning to read, you’d know. Good day.

I don’t believe I said the PS3 online system had no creativity, but if I did I do apologize. I didn’t proof read. What I meant was that the PS3 online system isn’t trying to be a social experience, which irks me. Yes, LittleBigPlanet and ModNation racers do nothing but ooze their own creativity and encourage the creativity of others. They definitely earn their share of brownie points from me. Truth be told, I am admittedly a Halo fanboy, but I will forever agree with you that is has become an expensive prostitute of it’s former self. I enjoy playing Halo and will buy Halo: Reach no doubt, but I am willing to admit that Halo Wars was absolutely TERRIBLE (I’d give it a 2/5 on our system), and that Halo 3 was over-hyped. However, to me Halo feels more like a game and encourages social multiplayer where as I felt Uncharted 2 didn’t. Love your comment though, thanks for the support and the intelligent disagreement. As you can see, U2 just wasn’t for me.

I like this comment because you do make a valid point. And while I’m not trying to be different and stand out to get into the lime light, I am however being incredibly tough. This because A. ND used to be my favorite developers. B. I’m a critic. And by critic, I mean I feel the need to find the flaws of a game and point them out so people know what they are getting into. In U2’s case, if I had known of those flaws, I wouldn’t have bought the game.

Any publicity is good publicity 8)

Your vocabulary seems pretty prepubescent in itself 😉

youre a fucking faggot. uncharted 2 is beast. only game better than this is MGS4. suck my dick

Wow, I mean.. if you can’t see that this game is basically the pinnacle of adventure/action gaming, then it’s going to be very hard for you to understand why we all love it so much.

The music, orchestrated and created specifically for this game by professionals, music that is not only scene-appropriate but impressive, actually making you feel a certain way during the game.

Voice acting, second to none, perhaps bioware and blizzard are close seconds, but the voice acting in the Uncharted series is by far the best I’ve ever seen, even Metal Gear solid, apart from Snake isn’t a great example of voice acting.

Super smooth cover system, get to cover, stand or duck automatically, roll to different piece of cover, jump over cover. I mean really? How are you going to complain about a system that is nearly perfect?

Shooting and accuracy, depending on the level of difficulty it takes a different number of body-shots to kill each bad guy, but at the end of the day.. a head-shot is a head-shot is a head-shot, and experienced Uncharted players know this. Especially if you spend a few hours playing online.

Storyline. Okay, this for me is personally the absolute best part of Uncharted. When I am playing this game, I feel a sense of PURPOSE! Some games feel like they exist only to waste your time, Uncharted feels like you’re solving a riddle or finding a treasure and uncovering a mystery decades in the making. It’s the feel of adventure, which is beautifully narrated that makes us love this game.

Hmmm, let’s see, alien force, threat to humans, inter-space conflict, taking down a double crosser, an evil corporation, bla bla bla bla! It’s the same story for almost 90% of what’s on store shelves today. Is that what you really want to play instead of a game that is hand crafted to draw you into an adventure?

These developers don’t just nilly willy create a story and go with it, they design it by doing research, going out to locations, knowing their history and mythology, and then sitting down and planning and designing it as a group, with plenty of feedback from the community from the previous game.

Naughty Dog to me is the absolute best developer in business today, and the Uncharted series is the pinnacle of video gaming.

It’s the only fu*king game that I take days off work for and play through the night when it’s released. It’s not because I’m a lame, obsessed low-life nerd like the WoW players, but because Uncharted is like a drug, and I love it!

I think saying something like “gaming history” is a bit misguided. There are new gaming websites popping up giving “awards” to games everyday. Therefore, a game next year has an exponential ability to win more awards than any game today. Counting awards doesn’t really mean anything. So what if hillbillygamersofLA.com gave it a rating of 5 oil cans and best game since your sister award. This guy doesn’t like it and points out why he doesn’t like it. MOVE ON

shadowjak, oh powerful ruler of this article.
Controller of comments and destroyer of puny little disgruntled internet goers.
I read all these comments and I really tried to understand where everyone and you were coming from.
They all seemed to be sticking up for you!
I thought to myself, did these people really read the same article?
So I went back to your article, re-read a few things, I even played some Co-op and Competitive online matches on this site. I tried to love it I really did. But I couldn’t.
An article that full-on smashes every U2 fans dreams?
Can it be true?
Can people finally be realizing that U2 isn’t as good as everyone has been saying?
Well, no. I guess not.
See, I was all for letting you have your own opinion, and I still am.
But there is something quite wrong with letting a games journalist have their own opinion when most of the time a reader can’t have their own. Regardless of how they express it, people have their own opinion and they DO express it. Everyone needs to take some crticism and we all have to be adults and learn to accept that some people express their opinions differently. People use words like “moron” or “idiot” because they’re easy words to use to express their opinion of you and your article based on what you said and how you said it.

So why are you such a hypocrite? You don’t want to hear blind disagreements like-“U2 rules and you suck”?
Why not? It’s your job. Well…maybe it isn’t. See, I was just going to go on my marry way because I never comment on articles(probably why this one is so long) I don’t think you really have a “job” though. You seemed professional, legit, you’re getting your opinion out there. It’s published through a relatively popular website. But what makes you any different than any of us commenters?
I thought it was your well-thought out article, your harsh words, I thought you were different. Actually a professional writer.
But then I got to these comments.
You ARE a fraud. Where is the professionalism in admitting “I didn’t proof read.”?
You are a hack who doesn’t deserve to get paid, all you had to do was write-“Rent the game and see if you like it!”
A positive, fair comment. The WORST thing you can do is get disageed with in an article of yours and then WRITE ANOTHER WASTE OF AN ARTICLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW YOU DIDN’T LIKE THE GAME BUT EVERYONE ELSE DID.
No one here is a tool playing into Sony’s pocket any more, that ended when LittleBigPlanet came out, people realized that Sony wasn’t JUST out to make the most money anymore, but that Sony wanted to make great games. That’s why there is such a strong friendly competitive nature amongst Sony first party developers. They are all trying to make the best game, not the most money. Naughty Dog has done just that. To say that U2 has NO creativity is just ignorant.
People loved the game, myself included, because it was FUN, because we allowed ourselves to get sucked into the story. You didn’t? Sorry, but that doesn’t make everyone wrong and you right. That makes YOU and idiot and everyone else open-minded. What game did you like more? Tell us why it’s better than U2 without being a d**k and then maybe I’ll start to take you seriously but until then, stop whining because a couple of people disagreed with you.

While I respect your opinion you’re being too critical in your nit-picking for my taste. Say want you want about the game play which I have found to be a little clunky at times , but the characters and writing do right in terms of wit and “Indiana Jones” style lore–better than the Crystal Skull.

Hi I’m Shadowjak and I’m a complete dumass who can’t give props to PS3 games because I’m busy humping my xbox 360’s disc tray.

I fully agree with this article. I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks this way about Uncharted 2.

You’re definitely entitled to your opinion, but we’d appreciate it if you gave stronger reasons. WHY is the cover system ‘janky’? I find it to be almost perfect. Why is the shooting unsatisfying? Is it because of the lack of Gears-level gore and violence? In fact, I find it perplexing that you enjoy Halo and Gears, yet complain about Uncharted 2’s unoriginality. Hell, you could say that Gears just copied Killswitch (a PS2 title, mind you) and Halo copied… well…. any FPS. Killzone 2 at least had a cover system, Resistance at least had truly creative weapons. Originality isn’t the problem with Uncharted 2. Besides, the design of Uncharted 2 is unprecedented, with the witty dialog and unique characters and mountains of incredible set-pieces. It also has a very unique balance between the fluidity of your character while maintaining a sense of realism and precision- shooting controls (that is, while L1 is held) have slower pacing than platforming controls that it makes killing enemies a cinch, while platforming controls are quick and accessible.

The reason that this article is bad is not because of your opinion, but because you didn’t justify your opinion well at all. The most likely case is that you have some sort of bias, seeing as you even bashed PSN without backing up those claims at all (the only feature Xbox has over it is cross-game voice chat. Does that make the free PSN service far worse?).

“You’ll find poor quality emulation of the Gears of War cover system,”- But the Gears cover system is just a poor emulation of the Time-Crisis cover system! Wanna back up WHY it’s poor quality?

“the Assassin’s Creed climbing system,”- Have you ever played Assassin’s Creed? It’s nothing like it. You just picked out a game with a well-known climbing system and said it copied it. Uncharted’s simple platforming is more akin to Naughty Dog’s previous Jak & Daxter games- in fact, Assassin’s Creed copied the Jak & Daxter climbing system, because you can jump in both of them!

“and the same exact story as the first Uncharted.”- Really? Have you ever played Uncharted 1? Let’s see… (spoiler alert) Drake gets funding from a reporter to go to an uncharted island and find a treasure, Sully’s debt collector tries to kill him, they find out he’s alive and rescue him, another islander captures Drake and Elena rescues him, they find the treasure but it’s taken by the debt collector, debt collector’s right-hand man kills him, Drake kills the right-hand man and gets some treasure with Sully and goes home. Uncharted 2- Drake pulls off a heist with his buddy, his buddy betrays him and he’s locked up in jail for 3 months, he goes to Borneo to find a treasure but just finds the map, Flynn corners him and he jumps of a cliff and meets up with his girlfriend at the X on the map, they find yet another clue to the location of the treasure, the girlfriend sneaks in with the bad guys, drake chases after them to extract her, he gets shot and embroiled in a train crash, gets rescued by a Tibetan guy, finds out that the treasure he’s after grants invincibility to whoever gets it, the village that saved him gets attacked by the villain, they manage to fight them off and go after the bad guys, Elena almost dies by grenade, Drake saves the world from the villain that became invincible, he and Elena hook up.

That’s way different.

“It takes all of these experiences and throws them into a B-movie plot about revenge, discovery and blue people and throws them in a few extraordinarily cool levels”-Hmm… answer me this. Did you beat the game?

How is the Gears story less cheesy? Or ANY game’s, for that matter!?

I can respect most of what you say, although I do believe that some parts of the game were pretty creative, and that the game doesn’t have to go too far out of the comfort zone. That said, I believe there are some parts of your article that are a little unwarranted (such as there aren’t fun weapons, I mean it’s set modern day so it’s not like there’s a whole lot of freedom to make a plasma rifle or anything). That said, I believe that much of what you find wrong with the game are things that seem trivial to others simply because what Uncharted 2 does that games are really missing out on in recent years is concentrate on making an engrossing, emotional story that draws the player in. Too often new games focus too hard on trying to be innovative without making a good story that really pulls you or gets you to do some thinking (For example, I love Portal but aside from a few questions there isn’t really any attachment to the game’s universe because there’s no real story besides escape). Long story short, I feel like you’re just on a different side of the fence. You’re going for the gameplay experience (hence your focus on controls and multiplayer) while most everyone else finds those pretty solid (the Plunder style of CTF is definitely my favorite CTF game type from any game, and I find it amazingly creative) but cares so much to attempt to call you out (juvenile manner or not) because they feel so attached to this game that creates a world and characters one can become deeply attached to. I’m not saying all these people are Okami loving, Bioshock thinking people (judging from the comments I doubt that very much) but I do think that Uncharted 2 was able to really connect with them at an emotional level so well in a way games usually don’t which makes it so ground breaking and meaningful to so many people. As I said, I can see why you think like you do (new multiplayer modes are few and far between these days and the controls can sometimes be sticky [I actually think that about most 3rd person games]) but it’s story and emotional pull are it’s “X factor” that give it’s uniqueness and meaning despite it’s imperfections in the same way that the “badassery” is what pulls people into Gears, the “intense, grounded in reality feel” pulls people into Killzone 2, or the custom map editor and ability to play with your friends in one room online pull people into Halo.

Sorry if that’s cluttered, I was trying to look back at your article while writing to not get it mixed up with comments I had read but that probably just made it more confusing

SPOILER ALERT! I put MGS4 at the top of my ‘top ten games of this gen’ list 😉

all the time i wanted to lol when reading your article, but i couldn’t, because i had alot of pain in my face after facepalming too many times over your article.
your article is a bullshit and if you can’t take criticism then you should live in a closet, rather than picking on a game that even you know is by far the best action adventure this generation had to offer.
and please use your glasses while playing video games so you can see what you are doing.
i use an almost broken sixaxis and i don’t get a bad aiming or bad cover system.
and my enemies die by the 5th bullet, if we don’t count headshots.

and with all due respect and love to bayonetta, which is the very first game that made me get its ost, just to remind me of the good memories, i just can’t understand how you can even compare it with gow3?
you can’t even compare it with gow2 or 1!
it is like comparing POP or even all 3 GOW games to ico or SOTC.
your articles are unbelievably unbelievable.
they are just to much, even for fucked gaming journalism.

I actually agree with your last two paragraphs and explained my tool comment in a different comment. The general gaming audience are those people on CoD you find and just don’t like, where it is all they play and they are a stoner filled and racist twelve year old crowd. These people don’t buy Metal Gear, they buy Turok, Haze, and MW2.

You just criticized me about not being able to handle criticism then proceeding to flame me about criticizing your game. Good show buddy 😉